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Melanie Green/ SL6 | Welcome Whitley! We are so glad to have you
| here!
Whitley Strieber | Glad to be here. Hope I manage to stay
| connected
| this time.
Ann Fischer/SYSOP | Welcome to the UFO Forum's Conference
| featuring
| Whitley Strieber! Tonight's conference is a
| FORMAL
| open discussion. Please type a "?" to ask a
| question
| and a "!" to make a comment. You will be
| called on
| in order. Please have your question or
| comment
| typed and ready to go with a "GA" at the end
| to let us
| know you're done. Anyone disrupting the
| conference
| will not be allowed to participate. Thanks
| for joining
| us tonight!
A51Decoy | ?
claudine | ?
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Yes, we will all be keeping our fingers
| crossed for
| you! Would you like to say anything before
| we start
| taking questions?
A51Decoy | ?
Tanya | ?
Whitley Strieber | Just that there seems to be an exceptional
| amount of
| UFO activity, especially since July.
| Incredible video
| from all over the place, and lots of
| encounter reports.
| ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Yes, I have noticed that. Pretty exciting.
| A51, ga
A51Decoy | are you still in contact, and is your family?
Whitley Strieber | Last week a friend who is totally unconnected
| with the
| experience
| had a face-to-face encounter in broad
| daylight and
| was left pretty astonished. Afterward, I had
| what
| seemed
| tobe telepathic contact for about twenty-four
| hours.
| It seemed related to the chain of mountains
| that
| stretches from Canada to South America, and
| was
| very eerie. At one point, I heard the phrase,
| "a
| shadow hangs over the cordilliera" and saw an
| image of these mountains. Of course, the
| greatest
| amount of UFO activity by far in the past few
| years,
| has occurred from Colorado to Argentina,
| along the
| whole massif. ga
A51Decoy | I mean, can you contact them? do you think
| you are
| messing with something that is beyond your
| reach?
| ga
Whitley Strieber | Contact them? I don't really try at the
| present time. I've
| done that and it worked pretty well, as I
| chronicled in
| Breakthrough. But I want to go beyond simply
| contacting
| them. I want to be actively involved in the
| search. ga
Wily Coyote | ?
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Claudine, you're turn.
claudine | hello mr Stieber, I am not in the USA but
| trying to get all your
| books, are you preparing a new one? are they
| still visiting you?
Ender | ?
Whitley Strieber | You won't get Breakthrough extra-US. For some
| reason, I could not get the agent to sell it
| abroad even
| though there is a big market. I am still
| involved with
| them, but I wouldn't say that it involves
| "visits." I want
| to make some kind of new relationship. I
| don't know
| just what I want from the right now. The most
| powerful thing i can get, I suppose.
| ga
Lillian | ?
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Wily Coyote, you are next.
Wily Coyote | What does telepathy feel like? Do you sense
| words in your mind or do you feel
| non-verbal energies that you interpret after
| sensing them - or something else?
claudine | !
Ronald E. Cooksey | ?
zermatt | zermatt ?
Whitley Strieber | Feels like a lot of things, ranging from very
| exact
| phrases, spoken as if by a living voice, to
| pictures, to
| ideas. Trouble is, IS IT REAL? I am never
| sure, of
| course, which is both the problem with it and
| the
| thing that makes it so provocative and
| interesting.ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Tanya, your turn
A51Decoy | ?
Tanya | First, thanks for talking to us. Do you
| believe the
| visitors are on a specific timetable to
| ultimately
| reveal themselves to mankind in general? Have
| they revealed any further info on where
| mankind is
| headed in the near term? ga
Madelynne | ?
Whitley Strieber | Timetable, yes. But part of how it unfolds
| seems to
| have to do with us. Part of it is very
| mechanical. For
| example, the first gigantic public sighting
| that took
Susan S. Surrett | !
Whitley Strieber | place in Mexico occurred on the day one of
| the native
| calendars changed to a new sun. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Ender, you are next.
Ender | A little off the suject, (sorry,
| but I'm curious) I recently
| saw the Communion movie,
| what was your impressions
| of it?
Whitley Strieber | Complex question! Simple answer: it was
| emotionally authentic, but the effects did
| not work as
| well
| as we had hoped, and the director, in his
| effort to
| communicate the ambiguity of the experience
| and
| some of its
| hyperdimensional flavor, took lots of
| liberties with
| the structure of my encounters as I remember
| them.
DianneG | ?
Whitley Strieber | Overall, I am finding that I like the film
| better as time
| goes by, to coin a phrase. The director's
| ideas
Tanya | ?
Whitley Strieber | are surprisingly rich, I think. It;s a film
| that will last, I
| feel, and I am surprised at that--pleasantly.
| ga
Lillian | In your interviews with abductees has anyone
| ever related an experience of seeing large
| almond shaped emerald green eyes? Thank
| you GA
Whitley Strieber | Red, white, black, brown. Don't recall green
| or
| emerald, but it could be in the database
| somewhere.ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Claudine, you are next :)
claudine | I am convinced (from my experience) that we
| are using a small
| part of our mind potential to undersand this
| "phenomena", then
| there are other different perceptions like
| emotions, which are
| then captured by the brain, and not least,
| are our higher
| perceptions that belong to the realm of
| intuition. We have to work
| hard on ourselves to develop as human beings,
| so we can really
| start to communicate and understand them, you
| all know it is
| difficult enough to do this with our own
| human brothers and
Whitley Strieber | We have a life that is entirely outside of
| time, that we
| intentionally do not remember while we are
| enacting
| our lives.
| But we are going to remember--the fact that
| we can
| even see the visitors means that we are
| starting to do
| that. Mankind is entering the cosmos,
| beginning to
| raise
| its consciousness to this new level. Exciting
| time to
| be alive. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | ?
| Ronald, you are next :)
Ronald E. Cooksey | Hi Whitley, I have had strange happenings for
| 12
| yrs. but no conscious memory of visitors. how
| can i
| get them to show themselves to me?ga
Paul S. Cilwa | !
Winter | ?
Kip Watson | ?
Whitley Strieber | Be careful with this or your imagination will
| do the
| showing for you! I would try to create as
| much peace
| in my life as possible, to meditate, and give
| myself
| permission to remember. This will help some,
| if you
| are patient. It's a tough one, but if you
| persist, you will
| probably find some memories that you can hang
| on
| to
| Just don't overdo it, or you will start
| dreaming.ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Zermatt, you are next.
Whitley Strieber | Testing to see if I am still online.ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Madelynne, you go ahead.
Susan S. Surrett | !
Madelynne | Not long after the UFO Expo in San Mateo last
| October you mentioned
Ann Fischer/SYSOP | You're still with us Whitley:)
Madelynne | on the Art Bell show that the "Communion"
| type visitor had a rare visit with you
claudine | !
Madelynne | after a long hiatus..have you been physically
| visited since then?
| ga
Ronald E. Cooksey | ?
Whitley Strieber | Right as I was finishing the Secret School,
| in
| November, I had the encounter you are
| referring to.
| Since then, nothing physical in my personal
| life, but it
| has started happening to unconnected friends,
| as I
| stated earlier. So totally unexpected. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Susan, you are next :0
Susan S. Surrett | I am excited to be able to talk with you
| Whitley. I have
| had some encounters of my own. Have you all
| read
| the Mary Summer Rain books? Please do ALL!
| the Mary Summer Rain books? PLEASE DO>ga
| oops
Debbie/ASYS-Library | zermatt left
Whitley Strieber | Lots of fabulous books coming out. We are
| getting
| this thing in perspective, I think, beginning
| to create
| an understanding that contains lots of HUMAN
| meaning.ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Dianne, your turn.
DianneG | The visitors that come around me are mostly
| acting
| quickly, with their predetermined agendas
| playing
| out...However it seems like golden
| opportunities for
| communication are lost...I realise this loss
| is on
| *my* end, but with that in mind, have you
| discovered
| anything that they would be interested
| in conversing about, or just what? thanks! GA
Whitley Strieber | Remember, always, that what you lose, they
| also
| lose. You are responsible only for doing your
| best on
| your own behalf. When we get beaten up by
| this
| thing--abducted, terrorized, essentially
| enslaved by
| devised ignorance--that is THEIR
| responsibility. They
| are not interested in conversing, or they
| cant, or it
| would already have happened. They do their
| part of
| this on their terms. We need fo find our own
| terms,
| our own meanings, and do our best to fulfill
| ourselves, no matter what happens. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Paul, GA
Paul S. Cilwa | Whitley, just a couple of years ago I would
| have said
| your comment regarding a "life entirely
| outside of
| time" would have made anything else you had
| to say
| unbelievable as well. But in the last year
| the visitors
| have shown me the same thing. It's amazing,
| isn't it?
| Just thought I'd comment publicly (for the
| benefit of
| non-experiencers) that you are NOT nuts...or
| we both
| are! GA
| By the way--
| I have found they respond well to
| images.
| Verbal messages fall on deaf ears, so to
| speak...
ECL Robin | Hello
Paul S. Cilwa | but mental images they will answer.
| They also get quite excited when you try it!
| GA
Lillian | ?
Whitley Strieber | The next thing in this experience has to do
| with
| learning to go outside of time and see our
| true past
| and probable future. We can learn to use
| prophecy as
| a tool. Fortunately, in this case, science is
| keeping up
| with us, because, as Hawking said in October,
| "it
| would appear that time travel is possible."
| Oh, yeah!
| And I agree with you about images. It works,
| sort of.
| The interesting thing for me is when they
| start loading
| my gourd up with images. Fascinating! gaq
| Sorry, plain ga!
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Tanya, GA
Paul S. Cilwa | Yeah, those rapid-fire projections are
| something! GA
Tanya | Have you had instances whereby individuals
| with no
| previous known contact experience, after
| having
| read your books, requested contact with the
| Visitors,
| and have reported to you as being successful
| in
| contacting (or being contacted by)them?
Whitley Strieber | Plenty of requests, a few reports that it
| worked. What
| they do is meditate, create a series of
| pictures
| showing where they are, and ask for contact.
| A
| question I got: what do I do now? Pretty
| frantic guy. I
| answered, why did you want this? He said,
| will they
| ever get out of my life? I said, dunno. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Whitley, myself and some of my abductee
| friends
| all had a message on the same day, a wake up
| call of sorts, with the theme "woe to she who
| knows and does nothing!" It was really
| upsetting
| and we all felt terribly guilty for not
| "doing our jobs"
| although we don't know what that is!
Paul S. Cilwa | !
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Any thoughts on this?
Whitley Strieber | That quote rings a bell. Bible, maybe? I'm
| always
| getting the feeling--or actually being
| told--that I am
| screwing up. My question back is, on whose
| terms? If
| I screw up because I don't get the message,
| then I
| think that the messenger has to take partial
| responsibility.
| ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Winter, you are next.
Winter | What happened to the congressional
| investigation that you
| mentioned in "Breakthrough"? What became of
| it? ga
Wily Coyote | ?
Susan S. Surrett | !
Whitley Strieber | A lot, I think. I don't know for sure, but I
| suspect that
| the three billion dollars that has been found
| hidden or
| "lost" by the National Reconnaissance Office
| might
| be related to that investigation. Last week,
| the director
| and his deputy were canned as a result. Last
| I heard
| of the investigation was a couple of years
| ago, when
| they said, "we can;t find the documents, we
| are going
| after the money." Maybe they found it.ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Kip, you are next.
DianneG | ?
Debbie/ASYS-Library | Kip left
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Claudine, you are next then!
claudine | I am very intrigued about young age
| experiences, that have a
| path of development during the whole life,
| when did you start
| having these experiences, would it be
| possible to remember
| without undergoing hypnosis. Is it possible
| that they are
| observing our personal growth and waiting for
| the right moment
| to interact?I we have a completely different
| conditioned
| equipment. (mind, body, soul) Maybe their job
| is to activate our
| potentials , so we ourselves have the
| capacity to do some real
| changes for our own humanity, without
| expecting them to do it.
Frank StanleySL5,22 | ?
Whitley Strieber | Childhood is the key. The whole thing starts
| there--both the relationship and the amnesia
| that
| surrounds it. My new book is about this. What
| happens to us behind that wall of amnesia
| I am trying to create a mnemonic device that
| will
| get other people to remembering more, also.ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Ronald, you are next.
Ronald E. Cooksey | Why are you still so scared of the visitors
| after
| having so many encounters?ga
s.cross | ?
Whitley Strieber | Scared is not the word. I am not scared. In
| fact,
| because I am not scared, I have become much
| more
| my own man.
| I am running my half of the relationship,
| which means
| both making things happen on my terms, and
| surrendering to their desires, but willingly.
| I hope. I'm
| trying. Not scared, but trying damn hard to
| cut the
| cards. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Lillian, your turn :)
Lillian | What do you think of the theory that there
| are Aliens already living amongst us now?
| Thank you and by the way is your new book
| available in Canada? ga
ECL Robin | ?
Whitley Strieber | Since the friend I referred to at the top of
| the CO had
| his encounter on a city street, I would
| assume that
| they are indeed living among us. Breakthrough
| is
| available in Canada from Harper Collins. ga
Ronald E. Cooksey | ?
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Paul, you are next :)
Paul S. Cilwa | Regarding your friends who initiated contact
| and
| then wanted it to stop: If you are ABSOLUTELY
| UNAMBIGUOUS that you want the visits to
| cease--sub-consciously as well as
| consciously--they
| will. Controlling the subconscious is tricky
| but can be
| done with visualization, self-hypnosis,
| chanting, etc. I
| know of two former abductees that have done
| this.
Believer Luke | ?
Whitley Strieber | Really hard to know what the inner self
| wants,
| sometimes. ga
Paul S. Cilwa | GA
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Wily, GA]
Paul S. Cilwa | Dream interpretation can help there.
Wily Coyote | What do you currently think the visitors are?
| Has your view of them changed
| since you wrote Breakthrough or Communion? Do
| you ever suspect they are
| from your own subconciousness? Ga.
Paul S. Cilwa | GA
Whitley Strieber | They are not a mental effect isolated within
| the
| individual. There are too many multiple
| witness
| experiences for that to be true. I think that
| they are a
| whole lot of things, or so complex that they
| might as
| well be a group of related phenomena, as far
| as we
| are concerned. Are they aliens from another
| planet?
| On some level, probably. But I think, mostly,
| that
| we cannot yet articulate what they are. we
| have not
| evolved the language for it. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Susan Surrett, you are next :)
Susan S. Surrett | ga lost my question
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Dianne G, you are next.
Whitley Strieber | Am I still here? No need to answer. If I am,
| I'll see it
| come up.ga
DianneG | Whitley, there is a book by Courtney
| Brown...whereby
| he makes claims of remote viewing an alien
| race
| currently living in SA. What are your
| thoughts on this?
| GA:)
Whitley Strieber | SA? What is SA?ga
DianneG | South America!! GA
Whitley Strieber | Oh, yes. Major Dames and his people believe,
| as I
| understand it, that there are Martians living
| in South
| America.
| Mars certainly plays some role in all this,
| but
| we have a lot to learn about remote viewing
| before we
| can rely on it absolutely as a source of
| fact.
| Courtney's
| book is an experiment, and a brave one. But
| it is only
| the beginning. Lots of adventure in that
| direction, I
| would think. He has a school in Atlanta, by
| the way,
| which teaches the process. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | s. cross, you are next :)
s.cross | where can one go or inquire for help for
| remembering ? have you found anything
| which might encourage encounters?are
| there any geographic locations that might
| be preferable?
Whitley Strieber | I don't know the answers to these questions.
| In a
| way, it isn't time. I think that mankind is
| still in the
| process of deciding if we want this at all.
| Once we
| have turned toward it within ourselves as a
| species
| and a part of our world, we will find that the
TZ&DI | ?
Whitley Strieber | secrecy, official and otherwise, disappears,
| and we
| have clear, concise answers to the above
| questions.
| ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | ECL Robin, your turn :)
ECL Robin | I had a dream in which I had some loving
| contact with aliens who looked like small
| children.
| Their craft (very large) came over my head
| and I saw my scull on their computer screen.
| Do
| you have a thought or an explanation for
| that? Are the Martians living in South
| America red
| dwarves bathed in red light? ga
Bill | ?
Whitley Strieber | No idea what the dream meant? As I recall,
| the
| people described in Courtney's book are more
| or
| less human looking. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Frank, you are next!
Frank StanleySL5,22 | Thank you for coming tonight. I notice that
| you make
| indirect Biblical references in you writings.
| For,
| example the names fo your first two books.
| What do
| you think is the Biblical significant of
| these abductions
| from your personal experiences? Seems that
| many
| become more spiritual after becoming aware of
| visitors. But I also recall that many
| primitive tribes also
| thought that more advanced civilizations were
| diefied.
| What's your feelings or opinion. BTW it is
| great to have
| you here with us.
| ga
s.cross | r
Whitley Strieber | Biblical references are my own. I am bringing
| my own
| spiritual background to my experience, from
| my
| Catholicism to my Gurdjiefian studies.
| Everything i've
| got. I feel that they have responded most
| profoundly
Paul S. Cilwa | !
Whitley Strieber | to me as I have focused on my christianity
| and
| integrated prayer (to God) into my
| communication
| with them. I have been taken more seriously,
| treated
| less roughly, and an very noticable effort
| has been
| made
claudine | '?
Whitley Strieber | to respond to me in a much richer and more
| complex,
| more fulfilling way. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Ronald, your turn :)
Ronald E. Cooksey | I'm sorry but i got the impression you were
| scared
| after i read "BREAKTHROUGH"-not going out to
| them when they called & throwing tables at
| them.What caused you to do these things?ga
Whitley Strieber | Next question is the last. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Whitley, this has been wonderful! Thanks so
| much for being here. For our last question...
Whitley Strieber | Threw the table in 1989, my friend. What
| caused me
| to do it was the fact that something ran at
| me from
| across the room, and it did not look like
| anything of
| this world. Surprise scared me. I have
| learned to try to
| be ready, so that when I am surprised
| I can offer more than a shriek and a tossed
| table!ga
Wily Coyote | What is the status of Secret School?
Melanie Green/ SL6 | TZ and DI, you have the last quetion.
TZ&DI | How do we know that we do want this
| experience, I mean
| that it will be best for us and for them and
| for our future as a
| race?
Whitley Strieber | It is written and I am struggling to find a
| publisher.
| Even though my sales are great, there is lots
| of
| strange, inappropriate, weird resistance to
| publishing
| my books. I have already been silenced in
| most of the
| world. US could always be next. ga
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Whitley, can you answer TZ's question before
| you
| go?
Whitley Strieber | How do we know we want it? I want it because
| I like
| adventure. But we have a lot of deciding to
| do. We
| don't need to worry, though. We WILL decide.
| The
| important thing for those of us deep
| in the experience, is to make as much noise
| as we
| can so that
| everybody not in direct contact gets a real
| flavor of the
| thing--and not one corrupted by the Satanic
| influnces
| that emanate from the government and other
| cults.
| Goodnight, all, and thanks for having me.
Melanie Green/ SL6 | Thanks so much Whitley. You have given us a
| lot
| to think about! We appreciate your taking
| the time
| to be here with us and look forward to seeing
| you
| again.
Ann Fischer/SYSOP | Whitley, thanks so much for coming tonight!
Frank StanleySL5,22 | Whitley Thank You So Much for Coming to Visit
| Us!!
DianneG | Thanks!!!!
Paul S. Cilwa | 'Night, Whitley! Always a pleasure.
claudine | thank you very much Mr Strieber, good night!
Madelynne | Good night Whitley, thanks!
Ronald E. Cooksey | Thank you!!
Ann Fischer/SYSOP | Great Conference!
John Barnes | Good night and God bless.
Jim Griebel/SL | Out_standing!_
Winter | Thanks.
Frank StanleySL5,22 | CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
Susan S. Surrett | Thanks Whitty. We love you PAL. May all your
| encounters be good ones!!
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