INTERVIEW WITH SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- MARCH 6, 1995
On March 6, 1995, I interviewed Mr. Sherman Skolnick of the
Citizens' Committee to Clean-up the Courts [CCCC] by telephone.
The following is my transcription of that interview. Note that in
this interview I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with
either all or some of the statements of Mr. Skolnick.
-- Brian Francis Redman, Editor-in-chief, Conspiracy Nation
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I looked in the Tsar file...
...and I sent you a copy of a very rare article from the Chicago
Tribune that ran in *one* edition, in '70.
I put it in the mail Saturday; you should get it.
It says that documents were released, apparently after 50 years
(this is 1970, in the article)...
...that the Tsar and the Tsarina, and their family, actually were
not murdered but were rescued by the British royalty, their
O.K. And my guess is that the copyright would've expired on that,
so I could just, say, type it out and probably put it on the
I wouldn't worry about the copyright. I wrote a letter to the
editors a year ago about that article, and they've never
acknowledged at the *[Chicago] Tribune*, or responded, or ran it,
They....... Two things: they released fraudulent details, I
believe them to be fraudulent, that some bones, otherwise not
identifiable, in the bottom of a mine shaft in Siberia...
...that they did DNA tests on it and they said that those were
the Tsar, the Tsarina, and the children.
False. It's false.
Secondly, the guy, Richards -- some guy gave you an e-mail back
that there was a book showing that Alexei Romanov [gives
spelling]... But the book by a guy named Richards, O.K.? Alexei
told me about this *21* *years* *ago*! Richards is the pen name
of a former gestapo official.
Would you expect a former gestapo official to tell you the
What has been published, over the last 30 years and so on, in
Alexei used a Polish name: Michael Golenieski. Michael Golenieski
was a top official of the Polish counter-intelligence. O.K.? And,
according to published accounts, when he defected -- during the
time that he arrived in this country in January of '61, a few
days before JFK was inaugurated as the President. He was
inaugurated January 20th, '61. O.K.?
He -- Golenieski -- arrived between the November '60 election,
and the January '61 inauguration. By special act of Congress he
was made a U.S. citizen and promised $100,000 per year. He has
been only getting $5,000 per year. *But*, the reason he was very
useful to American Intelligence: his information was so accurate
that over 400 Soviet spies were identified in the West and
arrested. So how much of a charlatan and a liar could he be!?
O.K. This guy Richards, which is a pen name for an apparent
gestapo official, left over from the Second War, is not to be
trusted! The books that *are* to be trusted are Antony Summers',
the -- I believe the name of his book is *The Rescue of the
...and another book -- I don't know the author -- but it's called
*Imperial Agent*. And it tells how the Tsar, the Tsarina, and the
children were rescued through Vladivostok. And they went all the
way around, with a British cruiser, ended at Malta. And the Tsar
and his wife and the children took up residence in Poland. And
Alexei was given a false name -- Michael Golenieski. He was
trained in Marxism, and became a top Polish Intelligence official
at the time, right after the Second War, when Russia took over
the Warsaw government.
And so he knew all the Soviet spies, which he successfully
identified -- including, I think there was a spy who purportedly
was a Swede, name (if my memory serves) Winterstrom(sp?).
But there's things published. So anybody named Richards that says
that he's a charlatan, doesn't know.
Besides which, in '70, there was a raft of British documents
released which the *Tribune*, in a wire service story, referred
to -- that I sent you a copy of, O.K.?
And these documents show it is most likely that the Tsar and the
family were rescued.
And the name of William Wiseman, a U.S. diplomat (I don't have
the article in front of me; I sent it to you)... But William
Wiseman, he was given money to facilitate this by President
Woodrow Wilson. That's referred to in the article.
So anybody that says that Alexei is a charlatan and a fraud does
not know the pertinent details.
I spent two entire days questioning him. The man has got a
*profound* understanding of American history. For example, he
knows about the Alaska purchase in 1867, how it was done at
midnight. And it was called, "Seward's Folly".
Yeah. Yeah, O.K. It's fairly well-known it's called "Seward's
Folly", but as far as it bein' done at midnight, I had never
Oh yeah. It was done through a strange bank in D.C. at midnight.
Alexei has got a profound understanding of history.
And the reason, the reason... And when you read this article,
that the *Tribune* has never recanted or renounced, you'll see
why. Because *if*, if the major media were to reveal this major
fraud of the 20th century, they'd have to re-do a lot of history
books. Why? The Romanov family -- not as the Tsar, but the
private gold fortune...
Yeah, it went to Rockefeller.
Yeah. To the Chase Bank, which later became the Chase Manhattan
If you know anything about numbers and compound interest, that
$400 million, at $20 an ounce [in 1918]...
...and now it's $376 an ounce, for gold. And *compounded*
interest -- that money there is more than the whole bank! You see
what I mean? And the Rockefellers, right after these documents
came out, in '70 -- released after 50 years, by the British
government -- is when they made the fraudulent movie, "Nicholas
and Alexandra". And at the close of it they show the Tsar and his
family getting shot against a wall in a basement in
Across the road from where the Tsar and his family were kept was
a house, occupied by British Intelligence. You understand? The
British royal family and the Tsar are cousins. They saved 'em!
Read this article when you get it in the mail. You'll see the
Yeah, all right. You know, this is somethin' that I really
[*Sotto voce*] If you put this on Internet, you may cause...
*This*... You can quote me: My opinion is that this is one of the
great historical frauds of the 20th century.
And when you read the article... Whoever did the article from UPI
even *quotes* an American retired diplomat, who says... He gives
some reasons, there, *why* the British and American government
want this hushed up. *And*, if you're a scholar of history, you
know that when the Russians made a peace treaty with the Germans,
early in 1917, called the Brest-Litovsk agreement?
*Part* of it has been secret ever since! This article refers to
it. There is a section of that secret understanding, which...
It's an agreement between the oncoming Bolshevik government, and
the Germans and others, that forevermore it will be kept secret
that the Tsar and his family were, in fact, rescued. They were
not killed. But that, they will release details as if they were
All right. Along those lines, I've heard it said by some people
that this whole Bolshevik Revolution was really part of Wall
Street's plan or something.
All right. Wall Street and the... I think the name of the book is
*Wall Street and the Rise of the Bolsheviks* by Anthony Sutton.
*There*, he goes into the documented study how those at the tip
of Manhattan, on Wall Street, *financed* Lenin. And in fact, he
refers to old issues of the *New York Times* of 1918 where it was
*admitted* that millions and millions of dollars in gold went
from Wall Street to finance the Bolshevik government as... Well,
the British financed the Kerensky government, which forced out
the, forced the Tsar to abdicate. And until he died in 1959...
Kerensky came to the United States. And he was a British agent.
But he didn't pull the government together. And then he was
replaced by the Bolsheviks, who were financed by American big
[...to be continued...]