SUMMARY OF CONVERSATION WITH SHERMAN SKOLNICK
I talked by phone for about 40 minutes with Sherman Skolnick of
the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts. The breaking
story that he and his associates are working on deals with the
collapse of the Baring Brothers Bank in England. He questions,
for one thing, if the bank collapsed on Friday then why did they
wait until Sunday evening/Monday morning to begin breaking the
story. He also notes that the bank is mentioned in one of the
classic books on the "War on Drugs" -- *Dope, Inc.* by the
editors of Executive Intelligence Review. Mr. Skolnick also finds
questionable the story being fronted that the entire collapse of
the bank is attributable to *one* sole employee who has now
I asked as to the recent alleged threats to his person and
liberty allegedly made by a Mr. Parshall of the U.S. Justice
Department. He reports that he has become used to such threats
over his 30 years of investigating government corruption but that
in this case the threats were particularly vehement -- enough to
cause concern. However, as stated, he notes that he has become
used to such threats. For example, he stated that he has been
thrown in jail for contempt of court so many times that he has
become quite used to it. He also gave a clue to alleged Justice
Department operations in his portrayal of how they threaten you,
"They don't say they are going to break your legs with a baseball
bat. They just begin to emphasize some things." So, for example,
regarding Mr. Skolnick's allegations concerning Judge Schwartz
(as is being documented in Conspiracy Nation), Mr. Parshall,
according to Mr. Skolnick, was screaming that he was going to
inform Judge Schwartz as to what Mr. Skolnick has been saying
about Schwartz's alleged corruption.
Why is the Justice Department so upset? As is being reported in
Conspiracy Nation, an IRS employee named Lynn Redmer has decided
to "spill the beans" as to what she knows concerning corruption
in the IRS. Skolnick views this as the sort of situation where
"one of the [IRS] family", so to speak, has broken the code of
silence and that this has got IRS and the government boiling mad.
Skolnick expresses that he hopes Redmer does not herself become
targetted for her brave whistle-blowing effort.
I asked as to how Whitewater was progressing. Readers of
Conspiracy Nation may recall that Skolnick's sources had
previously indicated to him that there was a stalemate in efforts
to bring this story out; that the Democrats and Republicans, both
being "dirty" in the Iran-Contra/Mena imbroglio, had come to an
impasse where an "I won't tell if you won't tell" situation was
in effect. This situation is beginning to moderate, due to the
huge pressure being brought to bring this story out. For example,
there is a Virginia attorney, connected with that State's
government, who has been trying to launch his own investigation
into the supposed "suicide" of White House deputy counsel Vincent
Foster, jr. Skolnick thinks that we will see things heating up in
March and April.
Sherman Skolnick had, years ago, written a book on airline
crashes which was suppressed. He expressed his wish, during our
conversation, to again try to publish a book. His concern however
is that, due to narrow corporate ownership of most publishing
houses, any book he writes will never see the light of day. I
suggested to him that Thunder's Mouth Press might possibly handle
him (Thunder's Mouth was courageous enough, for example, to
publish Mike Levine's *The Big White Lie*). Skolnick said that,
yes, he had considered Thunder's Mouth. He added that he
certainly has got enough documentation because government
employees are routinely albeit surreptitiously sending him
information. I, for one, hope he does get a book out there. Mr.
Skolnick has important information that many would want to know.
Due to Mr. Skolnick's worldwide recognition as a veteran
investigator into corruption, a publisher stands a good chance of
making money from the publication of any book by him.
Mr. Skolnick has tons of documents lying around, and he is
receiving more all the time. One winter, in the middle of a
blizzard, a truck pulled up in front of the offices of the
Citizens' Committee to Clean-up the Courts [CCCC] with boxes and
boxes of documents for Mr. Skolnick and his associates.
The "CCCC" is always on the lookout for new ways to "get the word
out". They use their recorded phone message (312-731-1100), they
print and distribute leaflets, and they have their own weekly
public access TV show. The Citizens' Committee is now about to
acquire video equipment which will allow them on-the-spot access
to their sources. Previously, when they had wanted to interview
someone, it was necessary to have the interviewee visit the set
of their show. Now, they will be able to pursue their quarry with
their own cameras. Mr. Skolnick also has received as a gift a
"super-duper fax machine" that he is trying to figure out how to
operate. The machine, once operational, will reputedly be able to
send out over 100 messages simultaneously.
Mr. Skolnick has become used to controversy. In the late 60's,
uproar was so intense after he had brought financial corruption
to light that the Chicago police cordoned off both ends of the
narrow street on which he resides. Mysterious black helicopters
routinely follow he and his associates as they pursue their
investigations. The "CCCC" maintains their phone message, in
part, because some government employees do not dare have their
names on any mailing list that Skolnick and associates might put
out. With the recorded phone message, government employees who
want to know what is going on but who are fearful of surveillance
can sneak to a pay phone and get the "rest of the story".
Finally, as a personal note, I want to add that I found Mr.
Skolnick to be an excellent conversationalist. He was forthcoming
with any information he had and was the sort of person who you
could easily talk with and have the time seem to fly by. He has
an excellent sense of humor, which is a bit too rare, I think,
amongst conspiracy researchers (although he stresses that,
strictly speaking, he is *not* a "conspiracy theorist"). Mr.
Skolnick keeps the frightening truths he uncovers in perspective
by being able to, from time to time, just stand back and laugh at
the whole thing.