LAWRENCE MYERS: JOURNALIST *EXTRAORDINAIRE*
Lawrence Myers, then a writer for Media Bypass Magazine, phones
Charles "Chuck" Hayes. Just a reporter, doing a telephone
interview. Hayes supposedly confides to Myers that he is looking
for a "wet boy," a.k.a. a hit man, to murder his son. Sure. A
reporter calls you and you tell him, "Oh, by the way, I'm looking
for a hit man to murder my son."
In the previous issue of Conspiracy Nation (CN 10.06) I reported
how Myers had played a role in the dismissal of Hoppy Heidelberg
from a grand jury investigating the April 19, 1995 Oklahoma City
bombing or bombings. "Mr. Mercedes" (pseudonym) had alerted me
to the connection and I thought I was onto something hot. But
Sherman Skolnick later reminded me that the Myers-Heidelberg
connection had already been aptly covered in the March 1996
*Relevance* newsletter (phone 1-800-626-8944 to subscribe).
As a grand juror, Hoppy Heidelberg became aware that important
evidence was being suppressed. On October 5, 1995, Heidelberg
wrote a letter to the judge overseeing the grand jury, charging
"...an attempt to protect the identity of certain suspects."
In their article, *Relevance* reports that the U.S. government
has settled around 4,000 Iraqi prisoners of war in the U.S.,
subsequent to the Gulf War. The disappearing "John Doe #2" (now
you see him, now you don't) may have once been a member of Saddam
Hussein's elite Republican Guard. But apparently the Oklahoma
grand jury was being manipulated away from certain leads in the
But grand juror Heidelberg was not your ordinary, passive
"sheeple" ("sheep" + "people" = "sheeple"). He struggled against
the manipulation being exerted on the grand jury. If the Justice
Department was trying to cover up leads pointing to John Doe #2,
then with Heidelberg pushing in the opposite direction the
cover-up was threatened.
In September of 1995, Lawrence Myers called Hoppy Heidelberg and
asked for an interview. Why would Myers, a journalist, phone a
sitting member of a grand jury and ask for an interview?
Heidelberg, quite rightly, refused the request. Then Myers
phoned Heidelberg's attorney, John DeCamp, and left the following
message on DeCamp's answering machine:
I do need to hear from you. I was going to go down there
to meet with this Mr. Heidelberg. I've already got the
whole story, ah everything I need to run with, all I need
is to get a picture of the guy... Now, he's telling me
that he will not consent to an interview with me. Sir,
I've got everything. I've got everything I need to do a
story on this except a photo of the guy...
Myers kept calling Heidelberg. Heidelberg finally decided to
just listen to whatever Myers had to say. From what Myers told
him, Heidelberg at the time suspected that his federal
adversaries must have leaked information to the press. Was the
information leaked so it could be pinned to Heidelberg and get
him thrown off the grand jury? From my subsequent conversation
with Heidelberg (CN 10.06) this seems not to have been the case.
In the *Relevance* article, Heidelberg is quoted as having asked
Myers that "this be an off-the-record conversation. It was not
to be taped or anything else. He [Myers] violated his secrecy."
But Heidelberg was under a false impression; he adds: "He
[Myers] led me to believe that it was off the record and not
being taped. However after reviewing the transcript, I
discovered that he had very skillfuly avoided giving me a direct
As in CN 10.06, so too in the *Relevance* article: "The
conversation proceeded with Myers doing virtually all the talking
and Heidelberg listening, to make sure that Myers wasn't going to
'harm anyone with incorrect information.' He stated, 'I never
gave him any information he didn't have already.' [Heidelberg]
also charges that Myers misrepresented him: 'He said the article
was based on an interview with me.'"
The article by Myers appeared in the November 1995 issue of Media
Bypass magazine, actually available in mid-October. On October
19, 1995, USA Today carried the following: "A maverick grand
juror in the Oklahoma City bombing case is under investigation
for violating his oath of secrecy and talking to a magazine
popular among militia groups." On October 24th, Heidelberg
received a note from the judge to whom he had written on October
5th, in which Heidelberg had complained of "an attempt to protect
the identity of certain suspects." Wrote the judge: "Effective
immediately you are dismissed from the grand jury."