FROM: DEBRA VON TRAPP
TO: KENNETH STARR, ESQ.
I received the following from Debra von Trapp and I am passing it
along. Note particularly that I do not necessarily agree nor
disagree with either all or portions of the following. If you are
mentioned and you are hopping mad, give me a call at (217) 356-
4418 and I will endeavor to present your side of this.
-- Brian Francis Redman
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January 31, 1996
Kenneth Starr, Esq.
By facsimile (202) 514-8802
RE: EOP/Obstruction of Justice
Dear Mr. Starr:
I am contacting your office in regard to work that I performed
with certain federal intelligence employees, supervised by
federal intelligence employee Robert Goetzman, beginning in 1991.
Robert Goetzman approached me in a private press function in
Atlanta in May of 1991. He introduced himself by saying, "I'm
Robert Goetzman. I'm from the Executive Office of the President.
I am one of the leading technical analysts and consultants in the
computer industry. Prior to 1981, I was a judge's clerk for
Orange County Superior Court.
Robert Goetzman has been identified to me, in writing, by the
State Department, as an FBI employee. However, other federal
contacts have identified him as holding DOJ clearances for both
the CIA and FBI. During some of our activity, he carried business
cards reading MCA/Universal (Japanese-owned MCA, Inc.) with his
name on them, as an employee.
MCA, Inc. began calls and threats to me in July of 1994. It
presently has one of its Directors in a rental house across the
street from my home of eighteen years.
I specifically wish to inform you of our activity, on behalf of
the Embassy of Japan in Washington D.C., which began at the
Lincoln Memorial during the pre-Inaugural activities. We
delivered $25,000.00 worth of large screen televisions to the
site, at Goetzman's direction, from Mitsubishi Electric and
Toshiba. At that time Toshiba was prohibited by federal court
order from trade with the U.S. Government.
I have been advised by other Washington sources that Robert
Goetzman reported to Ollie North at the NSA during the Toshiba
prosecution and is listed as FBI personnel in that prosecution.
The delivery was met by Robert Goetzman and his subordinate Peter
Stanley. Goetzman placed transmitting surveillance devices behind
screens of three of the sets and escorted them into the VIP tent
for Mr. Clinton. The sets moved with Mr. Clinton to the Capitol
Center and returned to the original site. At the conclusion of
this activity, the sets were abandoned on the sidewalk of the
The Inaugural Committee then trucked the sets to the Washington
Naval Shipyard, where they were placed under military guard until
the Committee, at its own expense, trucked them on United Van
Lines to California and delivered them to my house. I have the
documents and phone records from these activities.
We then proceeded to fulfill all of the first Executive Office
purchase orders through front companies operated by FBI and CIA
personnel. Peter Stanley sold Hillary her first purchase order, a
MacIntosh computer. Robert Goetzman and I shopped, publicly in
meetings with computer industry executives, with Hiroshi Suzuki
from the Embassy of Japan, for twenty motherboards for the
Executive Office computers. I fulfilled, along with Goetzman, the
first software purchase order from the Executive Office. Robert
Goetzman and another subordinate, Jim Cofield, represented that
all of the equipment was delivered with surveillance capability.
We purchased and caused to be installed WordPerfect 5.2 to ensure
that all document files that were surveilled could be easily run
through database analysis by the Embassy personnel. At one point
the Embassy had problems in converting English to Japanese on its
printer, prior to transmitting to Tokyo. At Goetzman's request, I
arranged for Ambassador Kuriyama's driver to pick up a box with
my name on it, which contained an unreleased Kanji version of
MicroSoft Windows. This program solved the printer problem.
Paul Steele, a federal employee who had been with us at the White
House during the Bush Administration, became Director of
Purchasing for the District of Columbia when Mr. Clinton took
office. Robert Goetzman, Paul Steele, Jim Cofield and I
purchased, delivered and placed surveillance equipment in DOC
[District of Columbia(?)] offices, including the Municipal Police
Department. I was paid, by arrangement through Paul Steele, for
this activity by their appropriation of the Xerox Copier repair
budget. The budget totalled $10,000.00, an amount that would have
triggered further scrutiny. They therefore paid me a District of
Columbia check for $9,975.00.
Robert Goetzman then removed 100 copies of WordPerfect 5.1 from
the Executive Office Building and delivered them, along with a
compromised master copy of WordPerfect 5.2., to the Democratic
National Committee to complete the surveillance effort. I
personally obtained and delivered, with Robert Goetzman and Jim
Cofield, close to $500,000.00 worth of computer software to the
Committee, in pricing arrangements that otherwise violated GSA
rules for the vendors. In fact, the GSA stepped in to complain
and then suddenly, inexplicably, backed off.
When I went public in March of 1994, George Stephanopoulos and
the DNC counsel then proceeded to engage in a coverup. Janet Reno
first opened an investigation in July of 1994, then her office
informed me by telephone that Paul Coffey, Chief of the Organized
Crime and Racketeering Section, had ordered some 62 pages of my
documents to be sent to his office and destroyed. I then had two
conversations with Paul Coffey. He advised me that he had
destroyed the records, that they were not copied or forwarded
from the Secretariat's office to the FBI, and that he had
instructed his staff to hang up on me if I called. He told me
that this information "would never see the light of day" and that
I should go back to Robert Goetzman and try to get in his good
The DNC then sent me two checks, in an apparent effort to silence
me. In total, the DNC paid me over $50,000.00.
Without his knowledge, I recorded a telephone conversation with
Jim Cofield, represented to me as being a DIA employee reporting
to Goetzman, in which he stated that I would be killed if I
talked about the Embassy of Japan.
When I advised both Cofield and Goetzman that I had audiotaped
them, Mr. Panetta's office (and presumably Mr. and Mrs. Clinton,
since I had been given a fax number into Mr. Clinton's office to
communicate with him) arranged for the SBA [Small Business
Administration(?)] to give me $151,000.00 after I had been turned
down twice on my application for a $16,000.00 loan.
Then another Goetzman associate, John McCracken (a former Navy
Seal), brought me in on his team to open another front company.
He paid me close to $50,000.00 and demanded the audiotapes. I
didn't deliver them in Las Vegas on November 11, 1995 and then
left under his direct threat that they are going to kill both
myself and my son.
I never knew the official description of this team. However, an
article authored by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard of the London Daily
Telegraph and appearing Saturday, January 27, 1996 [CN --
accompanying article by AEP is dated Jan. *29*, 1996], closely
describes our team. A copy follows this letter.
It is my belief that a member of this team, or someone
cooperating with them, would not only have had access, but
motive, to remove and then replace documents on the third floor
of the White House.
Robert Goetzman called me on the night Vince Foster was killed.
He said: "We did him." "We did him somewhere else but we dumped
him in a queer park to send a message to Clinton and his queer
wife." "He (Foster) went entreprenurial on us." "He was selling
NSA codes to the Israelis."
I am specifically requesting that you review not only the names
of the people that I worked with from the EOP, but others that
they have had contact with at the White House since 1991, to
determine whether or not their name appears on the admittance log
to the third floor.
I am specifically requesting that you cause to be investigated
the Clinton Administration coverup of their knowledge of the
surveillance and the theft and transfer of federal property (100
copies of WordPerfect 5.1) from the Executive Office building to
K.C. Schoor-Hollings, MIS Director of the Democratic National
Committee. Ms. Hollings left the DNC as soon as I went public.
I am specifically requesting federal government protection and
that I not be subject to contact by any member of the FBI from
California. Special Agent Janelle Salveson has directly
threatened me, on behalf of Robert Goetzman, if I continue to
I have interviewed on approximately 15 radio shows and two
television broadcasts. I have distributed the audiotapes and
copies of all of my documents publicly.
I have reported these facts not only to the Justice Department,
but separately, both orally and in writing, to the Washington FBI
office and the Secret Service. Remarkably, all of that activity
has only resulted in further threats to my life and more payoffs.
Robert Goetzman has conducted a continued effort to frame me as
an unstable person because I have discussed this activity. I
invite you to review the videotape of Mr. Nixon's funeral. I was
placed, by the U.S. Government (and presumably in a stable state
of mind), *unsearched*, on the tarmack at the landing of Mr.
Nixon's body and again, stationed at the front door of the Nixon
Library, *with* *each* *of* *the* *Presidents*, *past* *and*
*present*, *unsearched*, standing next to a Secret Service agent.
Mr. Starr, I am contacting you in the hope that one person
(yourself) in the federal government is not personally
compromised in his capacity and is unwilling to obstruct justice.
I was called by Victor Huston, FBI, of your office today. He
seemed quite nonchalant about my accusations and evidence and
especially distant after I implicated the FBI. He, in fact, only
suggested that I "write" you by mail, then attempted to leave the
conversation without giving me an address. When I told him that I
had your fax number, he discouraged me from faxing you. He stated
that he didn't want me "to tie up the fax machine."
Please put me, my documents and audiotapes in front of the
Washington Grand Jury. I believe the activity of Mrs. Clinton,
Vince Foster, the "Goetzman Team", the Secret Service and the
coverup of the discovered surveillance of the administration and
the DNC has direct bearing on your investigation of the
disappearance, reappearance and non-delivery of subpoenaed
Debra von Trapp
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